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IRC Channel operator requests are closed on The Sims Wiki, as per this discussion. Requests will re-open after a discussion of possible reforms to the request process.
If you feel that you are a valuable member of the IRC channel and you think you would benefit from channel operator flags, this is where to apply. The minimum requirements are:
An account on irc.freenode.net
Fair knowledge of operating an IRC channel.
Being highly active in the channel
Applying for this should not be the first thing you do after joining IRC for the first time.
Understandable, (almost 100%) correct English all the time.
If u talk liek dis, ur not rdy 2 bcome IRC op.
A record of civil behavior
If you're constantly being told not to mess around then you're not ready for this.
Stage 1: Nominating
Users may nominate themselves for IRC channel operator flags.
Multiple requests at one time are allowed.
Operator candidates that are not given any additional privileges are ineligible to be nominated or to nominate themselves for at least a month.
Stage 2: Voting
Users may support, be neutral toward, or oppose the requst. Users must provide a reason behind their position.
Users must be active in the IRC channel in order to vote.
Everyone's vote counts as one vote. Admins do not hold extra power.
A bureaucrat will then determine whether consensus has been reached. This means that IRC channel operator requests require at least a two-thirds support rate to pass. Strength of argument is more important than the number of votes.
Admins and bureaucrats may vote on a request. However, a bureaucrat who votes on a request and later reviews the request must review according to the vote result, not their personal opinion of the nominee.
Votes may be closed early if it is obvious that consensus against it will not be reached. (e.g. 6+ support and 0 oppose)
What you will do as an IRC channel operator
Protect the channel from disruptive behavior by warning, quieting, kicking and/or banning disruptive individuals.
Maintain an active presence in the channel so that it's more easily moderated; it's not worth having these rights if you're hardly ever in the channel.
What you may not do as an IRC channel operator
Use your operator privileges to take advantage of users or to control the channel.
Ignore the needs and wants of IRC users.
Abuse rights by using them incorrectly, for personal reasons or against non-disruptive users.
Use the privileges unneccesarily. For example giving out voice to users when the channel isn't muted or opping yourself unnecessarily/keeping op when you have no need for it.
I'd like to apply for IRC Channel operator rights. Sometimes I see that the channel is pretty much unattended (since the admin team isn't online or is doing other stuff at that time and thus, not paying attention to what's going on) and I believe that another person who is usually on or the most part of the day could be another hand to help.
I used to be an administrator here on the Wiki, so I know how to work with the tools provided. I try to remain civil at all times, although I get sidetracked from that on occasion.
I am now leaving this request open for discussion and also looking forward to seeing what comes from here.
Support - While he can get a little bit carried away at times, DanPin is almost unarguably the most active user in the channel and back when he was an admin, his possession of operator flags did prove beneficial and I'm confident giving him another shot at this will be equally as beneficial. The aforementioned issue of him getting carried away is only a little thing and hasn't hampered his attitude towards other users and his ability to maintain the channel. LostLabyrinth • (c) • (b) 22:17, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
Support - As roserade and labyrinth have both stated their reasons (which I agree with), there's not much else to say. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 22:18, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
Support - Since you used to have the flags I don't see why you shouldn't have them back again, especially since they weren't forcefully removed. ―ฬђtalk23:56, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
Support - Though he has on some occasions gotten a little out of hand, it hasn't seemed to affect his ability to moderate the channel. I believe the channel would be better off if he had the flags, as the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Ben (talk) 05:15, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I might not be the most active guy on the wiki, but I'm around on the IRC channel pretty much whenever I am on the computer (yeah, pretty much). I used to be a channel op back in 2011 however it was deemed unnecessary at some point. I'm in the UTC+2 timezone, meaning I'm usually around before UTC people start coming online and after Wogan goes to bed (:3) so I guess having me as op would make sure some additional hours of a day would be covered.
I'm pretty active in #wikia-sims and I'm also an op elsewhere, so I know how the tools work. I try to stay calm and civil and I think I do a pretty good job at it.
I guess that's about it. Feel free to ask me questions if there's any. 1358(Talk) 22:25, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
Note: Everything that was here previously can be found in the page history, I cut it down to save space. LostLabyrinth • (c) • (b) 08:59, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Support. Alright, I've read over what is written above, but it doesn't change my opinion of Xd and his ability to fairly op the channel. To me, the points above don't seem strongly substantiated, at least not enough to deny something that they're otherwise quite capable of. Aside from joking, I haven't seen him do anything which I view as being worthy of denying him this position outright. Certainly I can list things done or said by myself and other IRC ops/wiki admins that would be much worse than 'feeding the trolls'.
On the subject of that... it seems to me pretty unfair that the points above are even being brought up. I as a wiki admin am entitled to IRC op on the channel, even if I'm a terrible op and am rude to everyone on the channel, troll, etc. I can be a completely terrible person and, unless someone chooses to make a fuss on the wiki to get my adminship revoked, they'd have no power to eliminate me. But just because Xd isn't an admin, he's now held to a higher standard when he volunteers to take on a position. It's a double standard.
Ultimately though this comes down to a matter of confidence. Do I have the confidence that Xd knows how to operate a channel? Certainly the fact that he has operated others proves this - he could run circles around me any day of the week, as far as the technical aspects of running the channel are concerned. Do I believe that Xd will be fair to people using the channel? I believe that if given the flags, he will fairly adhere to and enforce whatever channel policies are put in place (the fact that we have very few written channel policies is another issue entirely). Do I believe that Xd will be civil and decent towards others? Again, nothing I've seen in his history leads me to believe that he would be any worse off than myself or the other ops on the channel, because in one or another way we've all done this sort of stuff.
Support - I have also read what's above, and I have chosen to support for reasons similar to LiR's. I have spent a lot of time with Ecks on IRC (and while playing Minecraft), and I see that he can be serious when it's time to be serious. In my opinion, he was a good op back when he had the flags and I also hang out in channels where he happens to have op flags and he knows what he is doing. Also, I believe that Lab's concerns about all the Minecraft talking are a bit exaggerated as in the summer of 2011 lots of people used to talk about Big Brother and those who didn't like it did nothing, so I guess that that argument is a bit unreasonable. DanPin • talk • contribs07:26, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Support - The way I see it, Ecks would make a great channel operator, and I know because he's been one before, as well as being an op in a bunch of other channels. Yeah, I get what concerns people have, but in my opinion at least operator status isn't a big deal and I don't think he'd abuse it. ―ฬђtalk07:56, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Weak support - Okay I've thought about this a little bit more on a personal level and I've come to the conclusion that maybe this wasn't worth a vehement oppose. My concerns with Xd feeding the trolls, occasional bad taste jokes and perceived inability to accept when he's in the wrong do still stand out to me as concerning issues. Now to drop the negativity and explain why I've changed to a support vote. Yes he's experienced, yes he knows what he's doing and no I don't think he'll maliciously abuse the rights. The fact that he's experienced and more likely than not knows how to deal with something does slightly overwhelm my concerns and I'm hoping that nothing will happen to change the scale unfavorably towards him. I, and I'm pretty sure you as well, didn't want to see all that unpleasantness back there and for that I apologize. Good luck! :) LostLabyrinth • (c) • (b) 08:59, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Weak support - After some further consideration, and the belief he knows how to be serious when necessary. Changed to Support -- Ben (talk) 12:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I'll admit I'm still something of a newbie to wikis in general, but I have extensive IRC experience, and I'm also familiar with the commands. I am Op in many other channels and aside from some trolls, I receive no complaints from an of my decisions.
I would also like to think I'm well regarded, that I'm familiar with the culture of the channel, and that I'm reasonably active on the channel, as evidenced by the statistics page that I run. Speaking of which, it would be nice that if necessary, I could take direct action against anyone who abuses the bots to flood the channel.
Neutral leaning towards support - While I know you're active, there are times when you may not be the most responsive user around in order to deal with something that could require some operator input. That said you seem to know what you're doing and I can't think of any other major issues so I don't think it would be problematic if we gave you the rights. Changed to Support. LostLabyrinth • (c) • (b) 22:49, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
Support - Its obvious that you know what you're doing and are experienced with IRC and are pretty well known in the channel. ―ฬђtalk23:51, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
Support - The advantages (extensive IRC experience and knowledge of commands) of having Ben as an OP definitely outweigh the disadvantages (unresponsive at times). Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 01:26, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Closed for requests.
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