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Game and content blog posts

Issue is not resolved

Discussion is stale. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 18:29, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

I think we should make a more focused effort on writing blog posts for upcoming games/expansions/new content as it's announced. I know that we used to write these quite a lot during the TS3 era (Nikel, especially), but since TS4 has come out it's mostly fallen by the wayside. The only two blogs I can think of like this are this and this.

At a time where it seems to be harder and harder to get people involved in our front page activities, those two blogs have generated quite a bit of traffic; check out the poll numbers and the comments as proof. To contrast, consider the average traffic that one of our weekly news blogs gets. Blogs about game releases seem to be a more effective way of reaching out to our reader community. Of course, one of the main goals in this is to turn readers into editors, but anything that is adding to our traffic here is helpful.

I'd like to know if there's anyone interested in helping to write these blogs. The blogs should preferably be written within a day or two of a game/content announcement or game/content release. If there's interest here in writing future blogs, we can come up with some sort of system for making sure that each major announcement gets a related blog post, since the idea of this is to make sure that we're not missing any announcements (like the GtW expansion announcement, or Newcrest). Thoughts? - LostInRiverview ^{talk • blog • contribs} 16:40, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I was actually thinking of doing a small review on Newcrest (similar to Lab's and yourselfs reviews). I'd be willing to partake in more these announcements and review blogs. ~ Beds ^{(talk - blog)} 16:52, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I could try to help out as well. I've also been playing some older sims games recently and I've been thinking about writing up reviews/playing notes for those as well. ―ฬђ ^talk 01:50, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Underage User on Chat

Issue is resolved

Old news. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 20:26, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

User:Petr.kasuba.12 admitted on chat to being 10 years old. AldoHyde 14:01, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

Soft blocked for three years. Just a note: No, administrators do not have access to the chat logs, because chat isn't logged; only a brief scrollback is kept. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 17:41, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

Bad behavior on chat

Issue is resolved

Old news. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 20:26, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

Today, a user has joined on chat with an unacceptable username and started saying wikia staff are pigs and spammed a further while I made the screenshot. Sims Player (talk) (mistakes) 14:32, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

That user is currently cross-wiki blocked, so no further action is necessary. -- LostInRiverview ( Administrator) • Contact me here • 17:01, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Rude User in Chat

Issue is resolved

Old news. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 20:26, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

User:Vegagarcia made personal attacks against me in chat. AldoHyde 15:44, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

User has been banned from chat for a week. If that user comes back or does anything else, please report it. LostInRiverview ( Administrator) • Contact me here • 16:00, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

One family navigation template too many

Issue is resolved

No further action necessary. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 20:26, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

When I made this family navigation template for my fanon I did not realize that I already had one. Could someone please delete the old one? - KaruKaterchen (talk/ fanon) 16:03, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

Done. Dharden (talk) 16:13, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

Troll user in chat

Hello. Today in chat, there was a troll user that continuously started spamming, leaving and rejoining. I guess it's not very serious, but this user did spam which means that he broke a rule of chat Sims Player (talk) (mistakes) 18:06, July 21, 2016 (UTC).

Investigating... —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 18:14, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

I've taken some chat logs, but nothing else needs to be done atm because the user hasn't used chat in a while. Re-report if the user comes back and is disruptive. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 20:26, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

Fanon deletion

I request a deletion on my fanon. It's not working out for me. Maybe I'll make another one that I feel comfortable with.

Female Creater (talk) 23:36, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Done Feel free to let us know if you'd like it to be undeleted. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 00:46, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Fanon deletion

I'm requesting the deletion of my fanon, All Bue. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 17:46, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Aside from Fanon:All Blue and the five chapters written, is there anything else that needs to be deleted? - LiR ^{talk · blog · contribs} 18:20, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Themasterofdenial and C.Syde65

Per The_Sims_Wiki_talk:Admin_Portal#Themasterofdenial_and_C.Syde65. This thread is to permit both Themasterofdenial and C.Syde65 to leave their comments and thoughts about this issue. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:48, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Moved from The Sims Wiki talk:Admin Portal.

The thing is that this user has been following me to various wikis and has been attacking me through criticism. My tolerance for criticism has actually improved over the last while, and it's not the criticism that made me do what I did last night, but rather the user doing it. This has gotten to the point where it's become really uncomfortable for me, having to put up with this user and their deliberate attempts to through me off my game behind other people's backs. If you think that this is some ordinary average series of rash decisions, then you must have no idea what it feels like to be in this position.

I've spoken to Wikia Staff at least once, and although they haven't done anything about it, as the user's behaviour has not been explicit enough to warrant any kind of Staff intervention, they did say that I should do my best to stay away from this user, and try not to interact with him where possible, which is exactly what I've been doing, since I feel really uneasy to be in their presence, but the fact that they insist on following me to other wikis makes everything worse. Otherwise, it's gotten to the point where I'm not sure how I'm supposed to handle this situation myself, and need another voice to help me deal with this user. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 19:32, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

You mention the user having criticized you, but you have not provided any links to diffs/discussions where applicable. If they are sensitive you may PM me the links via IRC. Let's not forget that feeling uncomfortable around a user still doesn't mean you can use your administrator tools where it is inappropriate (considering you are involved) and you have not approached any other member of the administrative team (to my knowledge) asking for assistance until now. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

I just wasn't sure how to approach any other member of the administrative team about this user, without making it seem like I was holding a personal grudge against them. I don't want anyone to take this message the wrong way, but I want it to be understood. The fact that he's been following me to other wikis and trying to point out any faults that I may have makes me feel stalked and harassed.

I'm sick of him trying to engage with me about things that not only make me feel uncomfortable but are also none of his business. One instance was when I was blocked unfairly by a corrupt bureaucrat on another wiki (the bureaucrat themselves was since demoted by community consensus and the users they blocked for voting on their demotion were unblocked by Wikia Staff). There was a message left on my message wall on Community Central where a user agreed that the block was unfair and that they could relate to it.

But Themasterofdenial pointed that message out to me later on in this wiki's chat room saying that he couldn't help thinking that maybe I did do something that warranted a block. I had to warn him a few times at least, not to mention kick him from this chat twice, and he came very close to getting banned. It was none of his business, and the fact that he was poking his nose into things related to me that didn't concern him really creeped me out. Honestly I wish he'd just back off and leave me alone. I'm not saying this because I'm trying to hold anything against him, nor am I trying to do this for my own benefit. I'm doing this for my own safety more than anything. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 21:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

If C.Syde65 and Themasterofdenial cannot get along with each other then they should cease interacting with one another. It does not give an excuse for Themasterofdenial to provoke C.Syde65 regarding issues on other wikis besides here and it does not give an excuse for C.Syde65 to abuse his administrator tools.

Given that these issues with C.Syde apparently predate his administratorship, I feel that a demotion would be in order given the circumstances especially given his misuse of the tools. I feel that Themasterofdenial may warrant a warning for harassment but it is a gray area given the cross-Wikia nature of this issue. I do not know the full story, I am just a passer by who just so happens to be an active editor over at Wikipedia who knows a little bit about wiki politics. I hope my two cents are valuable. 113.172.100.213 (talk) 22:06, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

I disagree that any demotions should take place at this time, not because I don't want anything of the sort to happen to me, but because I don't feel that it's worth it. This sort of thing has only happened twice, and each of them were because of the same user. There are better methods of dealing with this sort of thing than merely demoting those that were involved with it. I think the best solution would be to find a way to settle things and reach an agreement as to how to prevent this from happening again, so that everything can run smoothly once again.

I've been lost without any advice of how to deal with this, which is why I went wrong in the first place. Now that I am explicitly asking for advice as to how to avoid repeating an incident like this again, I'm sure that that would work. I would have asked for advice here earlier, but I just wasn't sure who I could count on to understand the way I feel about this. I've been trying to cease interacting with Themasterofdenial since I feel that it harms my future as an editor with or without my administrator abilities. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 22:18, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

I am willing to admit that I've done the wrong thing, and I am prepared to do whatever I need to do to do the right thing, even if I must unprotect the page, or possibly even restore the message which I removed. But I really want this behaviour on Themasterofdenial's part to stop, since it really isn't doing me any good, and it's not doing some other users any good either. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 00:36, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

I would strongly encourage you to unprotect your archive page, since it has been improperly protected and done to gain advantage over a dispute you were involved in. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 22:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

I have unprotected the page as encouraged. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 22:59, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Personally, I believe that C.Syde65 should restore the message in his archive, as its removal was completely unwarranted. It doesn't matter if someone feels uncomfortable about an issue; if it happened, it happened. We can't shove it under the carpet and pretend it never happened.

I do not believe that C.Syde65 should be demoted; however, it is clear that his actions warrant serious action, as he has proven time after time that he has trouble taking criticism, that he has trouble learning from mistakes and that he has trouble dealing with problems maturely, as an admin should do. It is not enough to give him a slap on the wrist or a stern warning, as the wiki has done previously — to no avail.

So how shall we solve this? C.Syde65 believes that we should try and settle things come to an agreement, and prevent it from happening again, and I agree — if only because it is extremely vague. To prevent it from happening again, we need to fix the deeper underlying reason that C.Syde65 keeps on getting himself into these situations — and it's not because of me.

C.Syde65 needs to understand that he needs to change. All administrators will encounter users with whom they disagree. All administrators will make mistakes. All administrators will get into disputes. Administrators must accept this, move on, and act maturely and impartially, that they may grow and serve the wiki as well as they can.

And indeed, C.Syde65 must accept his faults, move on from his grudges, and act maturely and impartially, that he may grow and serve the wiki as well as he can.

Themasterofdenial (talk) 09:25, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

I never said that I harboured a grudge against you, as I told you before if you remembered. These days I don't actually have a problem taking criticism from anyone else except users like yourself who only do it to test my temper. I do not get myself into these situations. I told you before that I do not approve of you following me places and stalking me, but you didn't listen. It's only in your prescense that I truly have trouble with dealing with problems maturely, because the mature part of my brain switches off in favour of my tense part. The truth is that we just aren't capable of getting on together, and we're much better off apart, at least socially.

You need to stop your meddling and just accept that I cannot handle being associated with you, because problems always arise for me. If people online don't want to engage with you then they have a right to do so for their own reasons. Interacting online with others in most circumstances on sites such as Wikia are a privilege, not a right. I know that there are times where users must interact with each other, but I do not see any instances where I am obliged to be socially interactive with you. Not every person is capable of getting on with every other person, and I just can't handle anymore problems on your part. I'm sorry, but you need to respect my decision, because I'm not saying this because I want to shun you away. I'm saying this because I've come to accept that I can't take anymore chances, and that I must do what's right, which is to stay away from those that I simply cannot get on with. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 09:46, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

The solution is not for me to stop interacting with you. All administrators are going to get themselves into difficult situations with difficult users. You have been getting into trouble since before I joined Wikia. The solution is for you to change your attitude and accept that you have to learn from your mistakes.

Furthermore, you will notice that in this situation I did not interact with you at all. You simply deleted a record of my previous interaction with you. Clearly, the problem is not our interaction; it is your refusal to learn from and accept the past.

Themasterofdenial (talk) 09:49, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Then why do you have to keep following me places and stalking me? Just why? I always get anxiety when you are around, and I cannot allow myself to suffer from anxiety when you try and force me to engage with you.

Since you bothered me the first time on Community Central, you have followed me to no less than five different wikis - [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] - counting this one, and not counting Community Central, and on most of them, your first edits were on article pages, or talk pages that I had recently edited, and tried to counter what I said and did there.

That shows me that your intention is to follow me places and stalk me, because it's your hobby and gives you entertainment. I am not willing to take any more chances because you have to accept that I cannot be treated like this. You need to accept that that is my final word, and for my own safety, I cannot change it. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 10:11, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

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C.Syde65, this is unacceptable. Now you are canvassing for opinions. What precisely makes you think that your fellow administrators here are this irrational to disbelieve their judgement so as to ask for partisan opinions? —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 13:01, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

I think he asked me because I know what's going on. I have seen over the past few months what goes on between them. I have seen Themasterofdenial follow C.Syde to almost every wiki he contributes to. His first edit on Encyclopedia SpongeBobia was a vote to unblock C.Syde's bot after a mistake occurred, seen here. I believe no demotions are necessary and I see that Themasterofdenial needs to leave C.Syde alone. At this point, it is becoming harassment. I do think that C.Syde assume good faith toward Themasterofdenial. In the end my solution is that they need to leave each other alone. Thank you for reading. -TheOneFootTallBrickWall —Preceding undated comment added 13:54, March 9, 2017‎ (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~~~~

I think that both sides carry some blame in this matter, but I think the majority of the problem here is caused by Themasterofdenial. C.Syde has demonstrated a record of harassment on multiple wikis including here, and that is frankly unacceptable. There are proper forums to address any administrative failings C.Syde might commit, but Themasterofdenial has chosen instead to attack and disparage C.Syde publicly and widely. I cannot blame C.Syde for becoming upset by this behavior.

However, I can blame C.Syde for his abuse of administrator rights on The Sims Wiki, during this incident and in the past. Taking on administrator rights means that you agree to conduct yourself maturely and responsibly, which C.Syde has failed to do in this case. I think demotion would be an overreaction to this incident and past incident, however.

In regards to the incident that started this discussion - the issue over the talk page archive - I'd say this. The Sims Wiki has a general precedent that users are allowed to edit their own talk pages and archives as they see fit. In this instance, I believe that C.Syde65 was within his rights to omit content from his own archives due to past precedent on the matter. I believe that Themasterofdenial, when restoring the omitted content, was not acting in good faith but was instead adding the content in order to aggravate C.Syde65 into responding. Where C.Syde65 erred was in protecting the page - this use of administrative tools was inappropriate and in response to a personal dispute and was not a legitimate administrative act to curb vandalism.

With all this in mind, I suggest the following courses of action:

1. Themasterofdenial is to cease harassment of C.Syde65 or any other users while on The Sims Wiki, including in Wiki Chat. Themasterofdenial may engage with C.Syde65 only if they have legitimate reason to do so. If Themasterofdenial is found to have engaged in further harassment of any users on The Sims Wiki, they will be blocked from editing; subsequent harassment after block expiration will be met with escalating blocks.

2. Issues between C.Syde65 and Themasterofdenial on other wikis or in other places on the internet are not to spill over into The Sims Wiki. We cannot police how C.Syde65 and Themasterofdenial behave outside TSW, but they are both urged to steer clear of each other and avoid conflict with one another.

3. C.Syde65 is free to edit his talk page and archives as he sees fit, subject to relevant wiki policies. Users are strongly discouraged from editing another user's talk page archives for non-minor purposes unless they obtain permission from the archive owner first.

4. C.Syde65 will apologize for his misuse of administrator tools and will not misuse his administrative position in the future.

-- LiR ^{talk · blog · contribs} 16:55, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, I'm sorry for the way I misused my administrator tools, and I am strongly supportive of the suggestion above. I do feel that Themasterofdenial was adding the content back to my talk page archive to aggravate me, and that I had a right to keep it off my talk page archive for my own reasons. In this case, my intention was to delete all records of Themasterofdenial's interactions with me, since anything related to them makes me feel uncomfortable, and removing them enforced my current tactics to steer clear from them. Also I'm sorry if I seemed like I was canvassing for opinions, and I'm sorry if that's what I was doing, but I felt that I really needed participation from someone who knew what had happened in the past regarding this ongoing series of conflicts. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 19:34, March 9, 2017 (UTC)