The Sims Wiki talk:Admin Portal/resolved discussions 2015
Anniversary events
Hello admins,
I'm bringing this up here instead of on the CD forum because I don't want to heavily publicize something that may ultimately not come to fruition. I would like for us to come up with some way to commemorate or celebrate the 15th anniversary of The Sims series and the 10th anniversary of our Wiki; both anniversaries occur in the first week of February, about two weeks from now.
I would like to have some sort of game giveaway on the wiki. My rough idea is some sort of public blog, something along the lines of a Monthly Question blog insomuch as it would be a question/answer format, with users commenting on that blog in order to qualify for a random drawing to win a copy of The Sims 4. I can provide one or two copies of The Sims 4 or some other Sim game (perhaps a couple EPs for TS3 bundled together as one prize?), but I wouldn't want to pursue this idea without admin support here. If we were to try and host a giveaway like this, the resulting blog would likely need to be regularly moderated by admins. Additionally, depending on how we choose to give out the game codes, we may need staff involvement. I'm not sure since to my knowledge we've never attempted a game giveaway on the wiki before. I can send a message out to staff and see if they have any particular need to be involved, if this idea is well-received here.
Aside from a game giveaway, I'd love to think of some other ideas for celebration. Of course, anything we do come up with needs to be implemented quickly, as we're barely a week away from the TS1 anniversary date.
So, thoughts? -- LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 05:41, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Sounds like an otherwise good idea... but I'm not sure if one week is enough to get it done. If needed we could offer a smaller prize or something. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 20:36, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
- We can (and have) given away games on twitter so that's an option, however I would like to keep it on the wiki (maybe some sort of notice on social media as well). This is just my own preference. Maybe offer a couple of different prizes so we can do some sort of level thing, i.e. first wins TS4, second wins an ep, etc, also would help incase the winner already has the prize. ―ฬђ talk 01:48, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
- How about we also give a special userbox for those who participate? Of course in the end anyone can really attach it themselves in their own userpage, but I don't think it really matters? If someone uses the userbox while they didn't really participate, they decide. As for the giveaway idea, I'm not really familiar with it. How do we set up the procedure of the event and the prize? Nikel Talk – Vote! 10:36, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
- Regarding the giveaway... We would write a blog post on the wiki and open it up to comments. After a certain period of time, say one week, we'd close the comments section down, remove any disqualified comments (i.e. comments by unregistered users, blocked users, or duplicate comments by the same person), and then randomly choose a winner or winners from the remaining comments. Then we would contact that user through their talk page and have them send an email to a member of the administrative team (probably me since I'd be giving the code away) to claim a game code. The game code would be redeemable in Origin for a copy of the game. -- LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 00:31, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
- How about we also give a special userbox for those who participate? Of course in the end anyone can really attach it themselves in their own userpage, but I don't think it really matters? If someone uses the userbox while they didn't really participate, they decide. As for the giveaway idea, I'm not really familiar with it. How do we set up the procedure of the event and the prize? Nikel Talk – Vote! 10:36, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
User:Ilovethesims199
So, Ilovethesims199 (talk · contribs · editcount · block · modify rights · logs · block log) PM'd me over MTS:
Are you Nikel23 from the sims wiki because I wanted to ask if it would be ok for me to disable my accounts and create another for a clean start. Because I truly want to be a editor I just create more accounts because mine is globally blocked for infinite and I wanted a 2nd chance because I can be a good and valuable user. Please I counted and in 150 days all my accounts will be disabled and my new account will make you all proud. I won't sock anymore all I want is a clean start with a new name. I hope to be all you guys friends.
I think this should be discussed here. IIRC, I wasn't really around or paid any attention to him before he got blocked, so I can't really say much about what he has done. I know he's made numerous socks, i.e. Coolsimsplayer, SimsWikiaBulider1234, SimsContributor100, and JustinLovesWikia12345. That doesn't really make any good impression of him. I also noticed there are many other sockpuppetry blocks in Special:BlockList. Do they belong to this user? Last question; is he related to Coolkid1999 and/or ILoveSims5?
Can't they pick any easier names to remember? What do you guys say? Nikel Talk – Vote! 14:43, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
- I don't support an unblock in this case, as they have gone straight back to vandalism and disruption after one unblock was made on the AGF principle. The user has constantly made apologetic unblock requests both here and on Wikipedia, and when declined they go back to creating new socks and vandalism. They've also sent me numerous emails asking about the block, and on the other side of the spectrum they have issued death threats on my Wikipedia talk page. There is a discussion on Wikipedia's incident noticeboard regarding this user. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 15:43, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
- Strong oppose: Evidence shows this person is dishonest and unreliable. They were given chances to improve their behavior and they failed. Any claims they make indicating that they've turned over a new leaf should be treated with significant skepticism. This person has used up all their second chances, as far as I'm concerned. LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 18:57, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
- A definite no-no. It's hard to tell if they're being sincere or are taking the mick in their little note to you. If they attempt to make another account, I say we drop the ban-hammer on them, having a member like that in our community can be pretty messy to clean up. Beds (talk - blog) 19:09, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
Support: This may come as somewhat surprising, but I found JustinLovesWikia12345's behaviors before he was blocked was quite amiable: the dude actually listened to the request that the rumor not be added, and I never suspected that he was a sockpuppet of a former vandal until you guys told me about it in chat. If the whole thing is an act, that's one heck of an act. I believe Give 'em enough rope may be put in place: give the dude one more chance, and if he wastes that... well, we'll simply land the banhammer.Given what Nikel had said, I have retracted my support to a Strong Oppose MILK FOR THE UNYUUFEX, FLAT CHEST FOR THE CUTENESS THRONE, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL PROBES (user talk:Mathetesalexandrou) 05:09, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- A definite no-no. It's hard to tell if they're being sincere or are taking the mick in their little note to you. If they attempt to make another account, I say we drop the ban-hammer on them, having a member like that in our community can be pretty messy to clean up. Beds (talk - blog) 19:09, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
- Strong oppose: Evidence shows this person is dishonest and unreliable. They were given chances to improve their behavior and they failed. Any claims they make indicating that they've turned over a new leaf should be treated with significant skepticism. This person has used up all their second chances, as far as I'm concerned. LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 18:57, February 3, 2015 (UTC)
Ilovethesims199 sent me another PM. Something tells me he's read this discussion, so here's his PM:
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My edits on the sims wiki where good with the main account Ilovethesims199 had good faith edits that got changed because it was in poor writing and the first sock Coolkid1999 I was messing around by using it to harass my main account and after that I was blocked indefinitely without talk page acess then I made sims1234rules and Thesims123 they got blocked then I made Coolsimplayer who had good faith edits to the sims wiki it got blocked then I made Wikiabulider1234 who had good faith edits to the sims wiki it got blocked then I made SimsContributor who had good faith edits to the sims wiki but it got blocked. The only reason I made other accounts is because I thought when it was blocked that it was broken. I never read any rules and most of the accounts where made a mc.Donalds or dukindonets or grandmas house. I failed to read and I was new and did not know what blocked met. I did not know what I was doing on other wikis was vandalism because I was mostly talking to people like the community central wiki. I now read the rules and I am ready to start over. And lostInReiveriew unblocked my account Coolkid1999 because I was joking in chat saying that I was CoryMach7. Most of my troubles are from being in chat. I am sorry I should have read the rules. I did not even know that they had a block log. I am just a inexpireanced user that needs help. I said sorry for sock pupperty but I did not know what the term met I thought it met that I had made a bad edit or that it met that I was a sock meaning I am worthless. If I was unblocked I could have retractions of what I can do like maybe no chat or no talking about admin matter like user rights or no attempting to talk to users about things that are not related to sims or the wiki or I could be adopted by a active admin or I could have a another account made for a clean start be blocked but with talk page access and I could make a unblock request. If you see this can you show the other admins because I can't say this on the portal page because I am blocked. | |
He admitted that he did bad things with his old sockpuppets and now he said he felt guilty for doing this and tried to prove he'd change... by making more socks to make good-faith edits. If he really wanted to redeem himself, why did he try to do the whole sockpuppetries to make things worse instead of reasoning himself right away? Secondly, he wasn't aware that sockpuppetry is not allowed; and thirdly, he made the first sock to mess around with himself in the first place...? Well clearly this shows that he's acting without thinking. Even if he's harmless, it's difficult for me to be convinced that he'd be constructive enough in this wiki.
K6ka, does the user in your link really refer to Ilovethesims199? If so, then this problem is just worse. Nikel Talk – Vote! 12:18, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I believe so, as they seem to know a lot about TSW (what with their usernames resembling Corymach, and their constant "I vandelize Sims wiki" or "vandelize sims wiki or die" comments), and they all target my userpage. They all seem to know what sockpuppets are as they did, in fact, request a sockpuppet investigation on me (which did not proceed, and the page has been deleted). The style of writing is also unmistakable. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 12:50, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I also got a similar message on MTS a few days back. To be honest, I deleted the message without reply because I knew that the user was blocked for repeated vadelism and sockpuppetry. There was nothing in the message that made it apparent to me that the user was indeed "unaware" and had remorse for breaking the house rules. Now seeing that contact with others has also been made just makes me wonder more about the user. Was he truly unaware and won't do it again, or is he just going to get his jollies off by doing it again? I just don't think he was unaware. -- Icemandeaf (talk) 15:53, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I remain fully opposed to an unblock. He clearly knows the rules, but his behavior shows he either doesn't want to follow them or feels they don't apply to him. Letting him back on just shows that he can lie, cheat, and violate the rules and get away with it. No, I'm sorry, but that's not how this works. LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 16:13, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, I haven't checked in with my MTS account for awhile and I noticed messages similar to those that Nikel and Icemandeaf got. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 17:43, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I remain fully opposed to an unblock. He clearly knows the rules, but his behavior shows he either doesn't want to follow them or feels they don't apply to him. Letting him back on just shows that he can lie, cheat, and violate the rules and get away with it. No, I'm sorry, but that's not how this works. LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 16:13, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
- I also got a similar message on MTS a few days back. To be honest, I deleted the message without reply because I knew that the user was blocked for repeated vadelism and sockpuppetry. There was nothing in the message that made it apparent to me that the user was indeed "unaware" and had remorse for breaking the house rules. Now seeing that contact with others has also been made just makes me wonder more about the user. Was he truly unaware and won't do it again, or is he just going to get his jollies off by doing it again? I just don't think he was unaware. -- Icemandeaf (talk) 15:53, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
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At the time I was unaware of the rules. I know them now and I want to follow the rules. I want to contribute positively. I have learned from the errors of my ways. I want forgiveness. I might have said lies in the past but that was before I had a turn around. You see the truth about me is I was bullied and I am afraid of people being mean to me. I want to be liked by you guys because you all are awsome. If I was to make a account with a new name and disable all the other ones you would see a big diffence in how I act. How I acted was immature and not smart. I will think before I act because I don't like to hurt people's feelings. I am a good person in real life and I want to be good on wikia. I won't betray your trust anymore. I am sorry for everything I ever did. I truly want to obey the rules and be a good member of the community. When I used my ip badly was because I thought as a ip that I was not important and my parents would not let me have a account. I would do anything for you I can be a good editor I just spell words wrong or have bad grammer but I can improve on that. I want to help the wider wikia comunity like maybe be a VSTF. I think that you giving me this last chance would not be wasted because I have learned my lesson. I won't vandalize or make socks. I can even use my ip to edit posstively and show you that I am good to have in the community. I am truly wanting you guys forgiveness and friendship. I really mean that I play sims a lot and being in the wiki would be a honor. Please show this to the admins. | |
- I checked his socks' history. There were personal attacks, disruptions, and apologies in various wikis. If he really wanted to change his mind, he could've stopped in the second or third wiki but no, he decided to change his mind now. If the intent is to make the wiki better, not starting a disruption is already a good start, and he didn't have to make a lot of trouble in doing so. I'm not convinced when someone did bad enough things, and then insisted on "helping out the wiki" right afterward. Nikel Talk – Vote! 11:11, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
How often is this guy sending you these messages? I've been thinking a little and I'm starting to think that he might be sincere about this as he hasn't made another sock, along with all this apologizing. However, I still wouldn't like to see him unblocked as when you mess up you have to take the consequences, but I would understand if other people think otherwise in regards to unblocking him. ―ฬђ talk 11:34, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I just got a second message from the same user yesterday. It was very short. "I really did not know the rules and I want to start over a new leaf I had read the rules now and I am ready to move on." I'm still not sure because doing those kind of things once or even twice, and then sending these messages might be believable. But that is not what happened. I have to agree with Nikel on that. -- Icemandeaf (talk) 16:08, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I've received messages on MTS as well:
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I really mean I'm sorry I just have short term memory and I have a low iq and I have CHARGE syndromr. At the time I was mad at K6ka because he blocked me with no talk page accesses. My main account had no secound chance Coolkid did but he was a sock puppet. At the time I was new to the site. But I then read the rules after my latest sock on the sims wiki. I made a stupid choice to sock and troll and I don't want to be your enemy. I am globally blocked for Infinite on my main account so I am going to disable them all. But all I want is you guys to be successful my meanest to K6ka was to make him want to move up because I care about people. I am truly a good person and if you met me in real life you would be amazed at how kind I am. If you would let me make a clean account when mine are disabled I will not abuse them. I am being honest from my heart. I truly want you guys friendship and forgiveness. I regret and realize what I did was wrong. I should get another chance under a new name. I have fully read the terms of use and the sims wiki policies. I won't betray any of you if you give me a chance. My ip is unblocked gobally on April 25th. If you give me a chance I won't let you down. I will do anything you and the member of the sims wiki want me to do. I was immature now I am mature. I want to help the wiki not hurt it. I will let you guys make it as if I just got unblocked not as if I am new with a clean record. I want to help admins fight against vandalism and spam and other bad things. I will use a chance as a privilege not a right. I will not mess it up. I will wait till my global ip block is up in April and not create socks. I am sorry if I hurt anyone. If I would have know the rules I would have never done any of that. It was wrong and mean and I don't want to be a troll/vandal/spammer/sock puppeteer I want to be something that everyone will like. I truly mean this with all my heart. -sincerely Blake | |
- My stance remains unchanged. -- LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 16:22, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I doubt the consensus needed to unblock the user will ever be developed no matter how many of these messages are sent. I've already added the user to my ignore list to stop the spam. If the user creates a sock on MTS we can contact MTS staff, as sockpuppetry is against their rules as well. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 19:46, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with your analysis of the situation, and I have placed this person on my ignore list as well. Additionally, if this person is looking at this page - and I would not be surprised if they were - then us discussing this is just a badge of honor. I highly doubt an unblock will come of this, so I think we should just close this discussion, rather than encouraging the sock puppeteer to continue with this futile effort. - LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 20:13, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I just sent a message to the staff because it happened just as K6ka mentioned. "Mom of 10 kids" just tried to chew me out about blocking "her son". -- Icemandeaf (talk) 22:37, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- This user is almost certainly the same user, and it does seem evident that they're monitoring this discussion as well. It should be very evident right now that all of these "Please unblock me" messages are not very truthful, and that no unblock will proceed. This definitely isn't new, but this should make it very clear this user is not here to positively contribute. Only one thing left to do now: "Revert, Block, Ignore." --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 03:57, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
- I was gone for a day and I got 6 unread PMs in my MTS inbox. 6 different messages from 4 different users. Yep. This guy is not gonna be unblocked for sure, like ever. All 4 of the socks including Ilovethesims199 himself have been blocked. Apparently it was that k6ka or Icemandeaf has reported them all. That user is apparently all over the internet, so try to report him if anyone notices any signs of him. Nikel Talk – Vote! 18:37, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
- If that's the case, obvious sockpuppet is obvious. I retract my previous support MILK FOR THE UNYUUFEX, FLAT CHEST FOR THE CUTENESS THRONE, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL PROBES (user talk:Mathetesalexandrou) 19:02, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
- I was gone for a day and I got 6 unread PMs in my MTS inbox. 6 different messages from 4 different users. Yep. This guy is not gonna be unblocked for sure, like ever. All 4 of the socks including Ilovethesims199 himself have been blocked. Apparently it was that k6ka or Icemandeaf has reported them all. That user is apparently all over the internet, so try to report him if anyone notices any signs of him. Nikel Talk – Vote! 18:37, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
- This user is almost certainly the same user, and it does seem evident that they're monitoring this discussion as well. It should be very evident right now that all of these "Please unblock me" messages are not very truthful, and that no unblock will proceed. This definitely isn't new, but this should make it very clear this user is not here to positively contribute. Only one thing left to do now: "Revert, Block, Ignore." --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 03:57, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I just sent a message to the staff because it happened just as K6ka mentioned. "Mom of 10 kids" just tried to chew me out about blocking "her son". -- Icemandeaf (talk) 22:37, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with your analysis of the situation, and I have placed this person on my ignore list as well. Additionally, if this person is looking at this page - and I would not be surprised if they were - then us discussing this is just a badge of honor. I highly doubt an unblock will come of this, so I think we should just close this discussion, rather than encouraging the sock puppeteer to continue with this futile effort. - LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 20:13, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- I doubt the consensus needed to unblock the user will ever be developed no matter how many of these messages are sent. I've already added the user to my ignore list to stop the spam. If the user creates a sock on MTS we can contact MTS staff, as sockpuppetry is against their rules as well. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 19:46, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- My stance remains unchanged. -- LostInRiverview talk • blog • contribs 16:22, February 5, 2015 (UTC)