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Olive Specter
Gender Female Female
Age Elder
Life state Sim
Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
Education and employment
Career Professional Party Guest
Family/Families Specter family
Parents Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda Both Deceased
Siblings Willow Nigmos Younger Sister Deceased
Marital status Widowed
Romances Earl E. DeMiseEx-Fiancé, Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Lover
Children Nervous Subject Son
Zodiac sign Scorpio
Aspiration Knowledge
Hair color Grey
Eye color Brown
Skin color Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game The Sims 2
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Strangetown
Olive Specter
Gender Female Female
Age Adult
Life state Sim
High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
Education and employment
Career Vegetable Slicer
Family/Families Specter family
Marital status Widowed
Romances Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Lover
Children Nervous Subject Son
Traits Bookworm
Commitment Issues
Light Sleeper
Zodiac sign Aries
Lifetime wish Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favorites Indie
Irish Green
Hair color Grey
Eye color Brown
Skin color Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game The Sims 3 Store
Playability Playable
World Midnight Hollow
Olive Specter
Gender Female Female
Age Elder
Life state Sim
Family/Families Specter family
Marital status Single
Roommates Ophelia Specter
Traits Neat
Aspiration Serial Romantic
Hair color Grey
Eye color Brown
Skin color Medium
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game The Sims 4
Playability Gallery

Olive Specter (née Muenda, previously Thanasia and Mortis) is one of the pre-made, playable Sims that ships with The Sims 2.

She and her teenage niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.

She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

Biography[edit | edit source]

Life leading up to The Sims 3[edit | edit source]

Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in Dragon Valley that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.

Life leading up to The Sims 2[edit | edit source]

Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, Willow Nigmos, and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato Muenda and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both perished as a result of fire.

Olive did WooHoo with none other than the Grim Reaper; which suggests Olive had more than a passing relationship with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in the The Sims 2: University expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.

Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the inheritance goes to Nervous Subject.[1][2]

She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.

When first played, she will have a want to retire. Because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a Slacker career reward available for her to purchase. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an Elder.

Life leading up to The Sims 4[edit | edit source]

A version of Olive, along with Ophelia was released by Maxis on The Sims 4 Gallery. This version of Olive is unemployed and has no skills, however, and despite now sharing the name Specter with Ophelia the two do not recognize each other as family since Willow isn't in their household. Since she is only accessed through downloads, she is also not related to this timeline's Nervous Subject, who lives in the Beaker household.

Simology[edit | edit source]

;The Sims 2

Sloppy 10 Neat
Shy 5 Outgoing
Lazy 5 Active
Serious 3 Playful
Grouchy 2 Nice
Sign / personality mismatch
A Sim with this personality would normally be a Virgo.
Genetic personality
Olive was born with 4 playful points and 1 nice point.

;The Sims 2

Image Interest Level
Environment 10
Food 9
Weather 8
Culture 0
Money 10
Politics 4
Paranormal 10
Health 10
Fashion 0
Travel 0
Crime 10
Sports 0
Entertainment 0
Animals 10
Work 2
School 2
Toys 0
Sci-Fi 5

;The Sims 2

Image Memory Type
Potty Trained by Lerato Positive
Learned to Walk from Lerato Positive
Learned to Talk from Lerato Positive
Grew Up Well Positive
Met Mystery Sim Positive
Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Grew Up Well Positive
Danielle Died Negative
Grew Up Well Positive
Got a Job Positive
Had Very First Kiss with Earl E. Positive
Kissed Earl E. for the First Time Positive
Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Got a Promotion Positive
Fell in Love with Earl E. Positive
Got Engaged to Earl E. Positive
Got Left at the Altar by Earl E. Negative
Earl E. Died Negative
Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Tim Lee Died Negative
Seth Died Negative
Patrick Died Negative
Willow Got Engaged Positive
Willow Got Married Positive
Melissa Died Negative
Got a Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion Positive
Lerato Died Negative
Peponi Died Negative
Got a Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion Positive
Jessica Died Negative
Kissed Rigger for the First Time Positive
Benjamin Died Negative
Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis Positive
Got a Promotion Positive
Got Engaged to Rigger Positive
Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim Positive
Got a Promotion Positive
Rigger Died Negative
Got a Promotion Positive
Reached the Top of the Slacker career Positive
Grew Up Well Positive
Vicki Died Negative
Kissed Hugh for the First Time Positive
Lyla Died Negative
Got Engaged to Hugh Positive
Got Married to Hugh Positive
Lou Died Negative
Hugh Died Negative
Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper Positive
Knut Died Negative
Luc Died Negative
Had Nervous! Positive
Made Best Friends with Ichabod Positive
Child taken by Social Worker Negative
Kissed Ichabod for the First Time Positive
Fell in Love with Ichabod Positive
Got Engaged to Ichabod Positive
Got Married to Ichabod Positive
Ichabod Died Negative
Creon Died Negative
Willow Died Negative
Ophelia Joined the Family! Positive
Ophelia Grew Up Badly Negative

Olive's memory connections[edit | edit source]

If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.

Olive's graveyard[edit | edit source]

There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions, such as the causes for all of the deaths. A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however, murder is technically impossible in The Sims games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, Specter, is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.

Trivia[edit | edit source]

  • Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
  • She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
  • Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
  • Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
  • On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
  • Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
  • When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
  • In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
  • Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
  • Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
  • Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.
    • However, her ‘Unlucky’ trait in The Sims 3 contradicts this and may imply that her husbands really did die from accidents and natural deaths.
  • Olive's maiden name "Muenda" translates as a conjugation of the Spanish verb "muendear," and means "series of blows or lashes given to a person or animal as punishment or expression of anger."

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Other languages[edit | edit source]

Language The Sims 2 The Sims 3
English Olive Specter Olive Specter
Brazilian Portuguese Olívia Espectro Oliva Espectro
Chinese (Simplified) 奥利弗 斯贝克特
Chinese (Traditional) 歐莉芙 斯派特
Czech Olivie Přízračná
Danish Olivia Spøgh-Elsen
Dutch Olijfje Siebrand Olive Specter
European Portuguese Olívia Espectro
Finnish Olivia Vainajala Olivia Vainajala
French Olivia Chimère Vert olive Chimère


Olivia Speck
Hebrew אוליב ספקטר אוליב ספקטר
Italian Olive Specter
Japanese オリーヴ スペクター
Korean 올리브 스펙터 올리브 스펙터
Norwegian Olivia Aandesen
Polish Oliwka Widmo Olive Specter
Russian Gertruda Necronomicon
(Гертруда Некрономикон)
Oliva Phantom
(Олива Фантом)
Russian 2 Oliviya Specter
(Оливия Спектер)
Spanish Olvido Fantoche
Swedish Olivia Gast
Thai โอลีฟ สเปคเตอร์

See also[edit | edit source]

Notes[edit | edit source]

  1. Since inheritance in The Sims 2 is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.
  2. If Olive significantly improves her relationship with Ophelia before she dies, there is a chance that some of the inheritance will go to her.
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